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I guess I was a little jet lagged. - The Paranoid Android
...musings of a mechanically depressed robot...
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I guess I was a little jet lagged.
I woke up at seven today .... seven p.m.. The alarm was very persistent, shame I'd set it for the wrong half of the day. I didn't realise it was the wrong end of the day... I got up and dressed. It was while I was showering that I noticed the heating was off. So I came downstairs to see what the hell was wrong with the damn heating when I saw the clock on the central heating. It's a 24 hour display and it said 19 something, not 07! So I potted around the house tidying. I got some mad idea to fix my electric's, but that ended in mystery; the fuse for the upstairs light circuit is in, and not tripping, but there's no power going to the upstairs lights. Who knows what the hell has happened there. I will be phoning an electrician friend to come and sort the place out.

I have just grabbed something to eat, and came here to check my mail and friends pages. While I was there I went on a hunt for the cribbage game I was playing last night... and I found another game that lets two people play each other across the internet! I have downloaded it, played it, registered it (family licence), and will be mailing a copy to my sweetheart to play. :)

Which brings me to: After browsing through several other sites I came across a link back to LJ... specifically thelovebug and his post here. It got me thinking about music I hate, and the whole hate culture. It also provided in a roundabout way a link to The Best Page in the Universe, which is damn funny in my opinion, mostly because I agree with the majority of his rants.

Getting back to the hate culture. To truly understand what was going on with the "we hate Avril" communities I downloaded a couple of her songs. After a brief listen I realised I'd heard them both before on the radio, and I can't say I like them much at all. The lyrics were immature, the attitude to much. I thought to myself "I understand why this chick is so disliked, after all - in my day there was nothing like this going on." Then I got to thinking, hell yes there was. There has been ego overloaded under talented "pop" stars since there has been a pop chart! And before that these egotistic's had films, and before that politics.

I thought about one of bands that most people would say where one of the best of their time. I thought about The Beatles. Now who can compare this young upstart with The Beatles you might think. Or you might be thinking who can compare someone so brilliant with a bunch of has beens... if you are I think you may change you mind in time! I thought:
In their time, The Beatles had their critics. They showed no great talent at the beginning of their pop careers. They played R&B and American pop covers, it wasn't until later that they started writing their own stuff. They were amazing self confident, to the point of cocky, perhaps not right at the start, but soon after they made it. Some of The Beatles lyrics are complete nonsense. It is rumoured that Avril lies about being able to play the guitar, but Ringo lied about being about to play the drums (ok ok he wasn't *that* bad... but either Lennon or McCartney said "there are 3 drummers in The Beatles, and Ringo")

So apart from the style of music (and the fact I worship the ground on which The Beatles walk) there are similarities. A lack of writing their own stuff, no lack of ego, some rumours about not being able to play an instrument, and nonsense lyrics link the two. Yet I love The Beatles and have no time for Avril.

Perhaps the difference is Avril's whole image is designed to appeal to a very specific demographic? While The Beatles may have started out pop, they evolved into a band that appeals to all ages and groups of people. Avril's fan base is probably devout, but they are also young teens who will change their tastes about as often as their undergarments. (Which is about once every 3 months if my early teen years was anything to go by!)

So not liking Avril if you are not part of the specific "skater" demographic is understandable... but hate groups? Going back to my youth, there were bands I used to dislike intensely. Wham! springs horrendously to mind! If asked, I would have told you back then that I hated Wham! This was partly because they were "pretty boy poofters" (and I was right all along!) and partly because my sister worshiped the ground they walked on, and played their singles and albums non stop almost every waking moment of my life. The difference between now and back then is I didn't start a group of like minded Wham! haters. I hated them quietly, on my own. So the hate thing isn't really new - it's just the need to seek out other haters.

Why didn't I start a group when I was younger? Well - the internet was in it's infancy back then. You could almost say it was just a twinkle in it's "fathers" eye. And starting a group in the real world is a whole lot of effort. Writing letters to the newspapers, posting notices up at school, no that would have been far to much work. Most of my male friends disliked Wham!, and for the one of the reasons I did, but that wasn't *why* they were friends.

So perhaps these groups get started because it's so easy? The internet makes it so easy to write to a lot of people with ease. Places like LJ make it even easier. If LJ had been available when I was 14 and at the height of my "I hate Wham!" period would I have started my own group of Wham! haters? I seriously doubt it. I had a lot more interesting things to do with my life, like chasing girls, fishing for sticklebacks, riding my bike, making thinks out of broken tape recorders. The reason I have not started or joined a "I hate ____" group now is because I have grown up, and grown ups "just don't do that sort of thing." I read through the occasion website that rants about a specific group or corporation, and I may agree with some of what has been said, but there are a lot of people who just hate for the sake of it.

That's what has happened. It has become fashionable to hate. Avril the skater chick is all about it. Plugging "I hate" into google produces a list of more than 2 million sites. They range from ihateclowns.com , to the Worldwide I Hate Mayonnaise Club and of course there are favourites like I Hate Men and to be fair I Hate Women, Why I Hate Microsoft, 101 Reasons to Hate Microsoft Windows and I could help but list I hate Saddam: Bush senior (news.com.au).

We are surrounded by hate!

It's now 12:30 (I started this post about an hour ago) and due to not having been awake for more than half a day, I'm still wide awake. I think I shall take some night nurse, and hit the sack.

Current Mood: awake awake
Current Music: Hefner - When The Angels Play Their Drum Machines

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tweezlebum From: tweezlebum Date: January 14th, 2003 05:11 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think that The Beatles' images were supposed to appeal to a specific demographic as well, to be fair. In their early days, their audiences consisted heavily of screaming young women. It wasn't until after they'd had a little time to establish themselves as serious musicians (and make so much money that they were able to give less of a shit about what people thought) that they branched out and really grew as musicians. But at the same time, I also think that John Lennon was a musical genius, and as much as I dislike Sir Paul, he's pretty amazing himself. Though I may able to appreciate the talent of many popular musicians now, none of them will ever be a John Lennon. The main thing I actively dislike about lots of pop music is that so many of the groups are essentially manufactured. It takes talent to spark musical innovations, and it takes balls to play music that 3089725667823645234863654735639000762435 other musicians aren't playing. The Avrils and the 98°s and the Wham!s are missing that. And it's obvious why you & I get along so well. We both have excellent taste in music! ;) ILY.
cham From: cham Date: January 15th, 2003 09:15 am (UTC) (Link)
u want my two cents on this? lol well ok i won't give an essay on this but i think it would be useless comparing anyone to the beatles. the beatles were a landmark in music, just like jimi hendrix was a landmark as a guitar player... there are bands and people out there that can say they're better and it doesn't matter because they didn't do it first... and not to mention any kind of rock has been influenced by the beatles in one way or another.

As for Wham... wasn't the fact their music was shite a good enough reason to hate them? lol
paranoidandroid From: paranoidandroid Date: January 16th, 2003 04:09 am (UTC) (Link)
LMAO! ... good points!

What I mean't was, there are plenty bands I loevd as a teenager that many people would think are shite. Some of them must have been talentless dodgy lyric writting egotistical bastards. Some may even have been jumping on a bandwagon pretending to be "punk" or "New Age" or "Romatics"... but I loved them. I was trying to work out in my own head why I find this Avril skater chick so offensive to my musical sensibilities. I am coming to the conclusion that I am a hypocrit, and that isn't a good thing.

Oh - and Wham! definately was shite! lol
teya_uk From: teya_uk Date: January 16th, 2003 05:59 am (UTC) (Link)
Hmm .. don't tell Mr Perou that Wham were shite .. he'd be most upset!
jacinthsong From: jacinthsong Date: January 17th, 2003 07:33 am (UTC) (Link)

The Avril thing:
I detest the girl just for labelling herself a 'skater punk'. Apart from the fact that her music is complete bubblegum pop with a bit of clashing guitar, she can't skate and there's nothing remotely subversive (the definition I give the word 'punk', on the rare occasions I use it) about her songs, it would have been nice to hear about her and her opinions instead of just hearing her call herself a skater punk as an excuse for a personality.
On a side note, Skater Boy (i refuse to spell it the way she does *shudder*) is actually quite an amusing song if you change the first line to "She was a boy, he was a girl" and see how many people notice.

The Beatles thing:
Personally, I think the 'nonsense' lyrics of Strawberry Fields Forever or A Day In The Life are infinitely better than
I never spend less than an hour,
Washin' my hair in the shower,
It always takes 5 hours to make it straight,
So I'll braid it in a zillion braids,
Though it may take all friggen day,
There's nothin' else better to do anyway.

Even singing 'she loves you, yeah yeah yeah' was like nothing before, in musical style and performance. The Beatles were unique, there are plenty of people who think they're pUnKz by popping into Hot Topic. You know, you gotta hand it to Britney. At least she ADMITS she's a pop princess.

The hate thing:
I agree. Apart from anti-Bush communities. You can never have too many anti-Bush communities.
paranoidandroid From: paranoidandroid Date: January 17th, 2003 01:33 pm (UTC) (Link)
Welcome to my LJ! The Beatles are perhaps a one off because they were so *differnt* for their time! But I can't help but agree with the Britney (what a name!) comment.

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